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01-25-2023, 06:43 PM | #16 |
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01-28-2023, 05:41 PM | #17 | |
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One is that, by the preponderance of the evidence, her misleading behavior was a product of mental illness. (By the way, the preponderance of the evidence goes in the same direction for Agatha Christie in 1926.) You can’t ever prove what is going through someone’s mind, but I think mental illness, and even what used to be called a mental breakdown, isn’t rare. Another reason to read is that if the standard is the worst thing a person ever did, a large portion of good authors are going to fail the test. I don’t vouch for everything in this link, but it gives the picture: RESPECTED WRITERS WHO WERE ACTUALLY TERRIBLE PEOPLE I don’t think I’m worse than the average human, but have I ever done anything, even long ago, so shameful that it would get me on a do not read list? Could be. If we refuse to read someone because of their publicly known bad behavior, we are quite liable to read someone who is actually, but secretly, worse. |
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01-28-2023, 10:00 PM | #19 |
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It's not about reading (or not) books written by dirtbags. It's about not rewarding known reprehensible behavior. I feel no remorse for reading (and even enjoying) works written by people who keep their bad behavior secret. But when I know better? And they cop to it? I'll reserve the right to refuse to enable them.
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But then there's Anne Perry, who, as a teenager, helped her friend violently kill the friend's mother. When this information came out, it seemed especially distasteful to me that someone who'd killed wrote murder mysteries, so I resisted reading any of her books for a long time. Until one day I did, and continued to read her many excellent books. I can't fully justify this to myself and my sense of ethics, except that the crime happened long ago when she was very young, and she was punished for it. |
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01-29-2023, 01:33 PM | #23 | |
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She did her legal time, changed her name, and tried to move on. I don't know if she could have done more. Maybe the family didn't want her to. But in the 69 years since the murder, she's behaved herself, and found a way to support herself. I have no problems with people buying her books, and have some I hope to enjoy in the future. |
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01-29-2023, 02:21 PM | #24 |
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Oh, most certainly. Redemption IS possible. But Meachan has not even begun to earn that.
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There also is the problem of how ex-convicts are to support themselves if people are going to continue to penalize them after their sentence is completed. As for Susan Meachen, maybe she will be charged with crimes, and maybe not. While U.S. law enforcement isn't perfect, I don't think that I know better what penalty, if any, she should face. I wonder if readers, who feel that reading decisions are an up or down vote on the character of the author, are only going to read authors whose publicly known character fits into their value scheme. Then reading, rather than opening up the mind to understanding people far different from ourselves, will close it. So, in my sense of ethics, your Anne Perry reading decision is fully justified. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 01-29-2023 at 08:02 PM. |
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01-29-2023, 08:16 PM | #27 | |
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Reading for personal edification is not something everyone does. Especially later in life. For those reading purely for entertainment purposes, all criteria used to dismiss a book (or an author) are on the table. Be they whimsical and/or unfair. I, for one, have no interest in an author's character. So long as they keep their character relatively private. Once they share their character publicly, I will use that knowledge any way I see fit. Up to and including choosing not to read (or to read) their works. Last edited by DiapDealer; 01-30-2023 at 05:41 AM. |
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My..IDK, issue? My takeaway with this woman is yes, perhaps she's mentally ill. One has to infer a certain amount of some oddness, to have pulled this off. Sure, the Dame disappeared for some days--not years. She didn't allow people to go to her own funeral and all that. She didn't allow friends and family to grieve, thinking she'd suicided. Was it, is it, a cry for help? Hell, who knows. She should definitely see a therapist. I'll leave it there. Nonetheless...even if I did read her genre, which I confess is not my wheelhouse, I think I'd give her a pass. I think that if she were ill; if she'd sought treatment, if she had any self-awareness, at all, around the idea that she's not the center of the universe, the announcement and handling of all this would have been far better-handled. That sort of makes me feel as though it's all some huge joke to her and yes, I'm making that judgement from, no doubt, thousands of miles away with zero information. I admit it. Hitch |
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Even more plausible is that learning her husband was having an affair, and wanted a divorce, pushed her into a nervous breakdown. Some people become irrational when under too much stress, and then recover. How long it takes to recover is variable. ____________________ * Gendered language is quoted from my link. I’m sure there were also, at least a few, policewomen. |
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